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Redlevel

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Fri 17 Nov 17 14:19

New Teslas..


This looks like the future..

I can't believe that GM are going to sit back and ignore this with continued plans of IC motored cars, Corvettes or anything else.

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/tesla-unveils-first-electr...

Smooth lines, 0-60 in 2seconds, 600 mile range? That's a no brainer compared to what's around right now and if Ive read it right, available from 2020.

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Nick B

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Fri 17 Nov 17 17:16

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Correct Steve, that's the way we are heading,

Fisker say they have developed new 'solid state' battery technology, 500 mile range and 1 minute charging time, that would be a real game changer.

Nick.

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Alan305

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Fri 17 Nov 17 18:44

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Just wondered how much heat a 1 minute charge would generate!


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BlackZeD

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Fri 17 Nov 17 19:24

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I think the lights would go out in the street for a minuite while its charging.
Would like to see an old meter spool up with that, be like a bleeding buzz saw.


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Redlevel

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Fri 17 Nov 17 20:17

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That trucks not got a Yorkie bar holder so its obviously going to be driverless at some point.. Laughing

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roscobbc

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Sat 18 Nov 17 13:18

Re: New Teslas..


stevel98 wrote (View Post):This looks like the future..

I can't believe that GM are going to sit back and ignore this with continued plans of IC motored cars, Corvettes or anything else.

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/tesla-unveils-first-electr...

Smooth lines, 0-60 in 2seconds, 600 mile range? That's a no brainer compared to what's around right now and if Ive read it right, available from 2020.

Don't think that GM will ignore - new mid engine Vette platform would be so easy for hybrid set-up. I can see Tesla having cost related issues out there in the market. The mid sized $45k vehicle is way behind in production - will most likely be £50k when eventually here - it'll be excluded from Tesla's free Supercharging - if they sell too many 'range anxiety' will be a daily thing for many people. That truck will need to be far bigger than anything that would be legal in UK and Europe just to incorporate the underslung battery packs. Costs for batteries alone will be £100K's - commercial operators will expect lifespans of at least 10 years from batteries - can see major shortages of rare earth materials looming............😟


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philv8

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Sun 19 Nov 17 10:13

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Nick B wrote (View Post):Correct Steve, that's the way we are heading,

Fisker say they have developed new 'solid state' battery technology, 500 mile range and 1 minute charging time, that would be a real game changer.

Nick.


It may be the way it's heading, but we may not be..... At £200k for the Tesla sports car, it won't be within reach of many of us, no matter how much we might like one. Mind you, does anyone really need all that performance? 250+mph and 0-60 in 1.9 seconds - where are you going to use that? It would be better with 150 mph and 60 in 3 seconds if it meant a 1000 mile range. Even that is a world away from the 'Everyman' Nissan Leaf.



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roscobbc

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Sun 19 Nov 17 11:38

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Just been reading the finances of Tesla - last quarterly report shows a net loss of $619.4m, compared with a profit of $21.9m over the same period last year. They have struggled to produce only 222 of the new Model 3's against significantly higher expectations........they are going to need some significant financial input in the future to continue I would think.....where will that come from - the US motor industry, the Chinese?. Musk may be showing us all the way be need to be going - but will his company be around to see if happening? Scratchchin


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Redlevel

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Sun 19 Nov 17 23:46

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The US and China are investing billions on artificial intelligence where as the EU is spending zero. The UK is aiming at driverless cars by 2021 and to achieve this, there's going to be financial partnerships and major changes to UK motoring as we know it..

Performance? If we don't need the performance of the Tesla, why do we need the performance of IC motored supercars?

The only ones who are going to be enjoying traditional motoring after 2021 are those with 'Historic' vehicles. My feeling is that this is the writing on the wall for new modern cars who may well be subject to enforced scrappage rules within the next ten years.

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z06_tim

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Mon 20 Nov 17 08:02


Steve. The UK has been working on various driver-less cars projects/trials for many years now. Whilst it's definitely not in the £billions, it is gaining momentum, and all OEMs are looking to this as a future. It's certainly an interesting time to be working in automotive and there are many countries that would love to have an automotive and motorsport industry as good as the UK. Just because we don't have the fanfare and shout about this like Musk et-al, doesn't mean we don't have talented engineers, pushing the boundaries.


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