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Developing Starter Issue



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kentvette

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Mon 18 Jun 18 17:31

Developing Starter Issue


On our latest runs out in the old '78 I have noticed a developing issue with the starter motor.

Back in the late 90’s I experienced the classic “hot start” situation – switching off the car and trying to start within 3-10 minutes meant that turning the key resulted in nothing, just a click. Once the starter had cooled off (after abut 15 minutes) it would start. That was cured by a starter re-build, which included a new solenoid.

However, recently I have noticed a slightly different behaviour. The car starts fine from cold. But, on occasions, after being switched off for about 5 minutes (just enough time to buy fuel for example), when I start the car the starter is “lazy”. By that I mean it is reluctant to turn over immediately, then does so very slowly, as in a dead or dying battery. So far, it has started! When cold however, or if left for longer period, like half a day at an event, it starts normally and the starter seems to spin over well enough.

The battery was fitted in January 2014, so is now a little over 4 years old. I’ve checked the various earth connections and all seem tight and clean.

So, does this sound like another starter re-build is necessary? Or, is it better to replace?

What is the situation with “shims” for the starter? I recall reading that this is a necessary process, something I avoided with a re-build of course.

As the car is an auto of course, so I don’t want to get caught out somewhere!

Any thoughts advice please?


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Sid.123

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Tue 19 Jun 18 13:34

Re: Developing Starter Issue


I havent experienced this with the vette but i used to get it on my old trans am 400. It does help putting heat insulation between the block and starter but if i remember correctly the only permanant way was a replacement.


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CaptainK

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Mon 16 Jul 18 14:13


That sounds exactly like the situation with my old starter. Over time it got worse and worse resulting in it not bothering to start about 90% of the time.

Turns out mine was a combination of needing the starter rebuilding (much happier now!) and also the wiring from battery to starter not looking the best any more.

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kentvette

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Mon 16 Jul 18 18:41

Re: Developing Starter Issue


When I had the problem way back when, it was solved with a starter re-build.

Having had valuable advice, I removed the starter and stripped and cleaned the solenoid. I also when over every connection - battery terminals, earth points on chassis and engine, starter terminals etc.

Having had a couple of runs out recently, in some very warm weather, it seems,so far, to be better. So, I'm hoping that I'll avoid a starter re-build, not so easy to arrange here.
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Stephen J Irons
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Corvette Club France
Corvettes of Southern California
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Red Corvettes Have More Fun!

Apple IS Genisys!
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kentvette

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Tue 24 Jul 18 10:10

Re: Developing Starter Issue


Happy to report that we completed a very warm Traversee de Paris on Sunday with the Corvette and no starter issues at all!

In fact we rather smugly cruised past a number of cars that were struggling with the temperatures, with the old '78's temperature gauge barely moving up the scale and the car continuing to run like clockwork. We even managed to do the entire run up and back on the autoroute with Cruise engaged, never needing to re-set - no "resume" feature on the old cars! Great day out!



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Corvette Club France
Corvettes of Southern California
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Stephen & June's Web Site
Red Corvettes Have More Fun!

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The "Born-Again Greenies" are killing the planet! It's time to wake up and smell the rain-forest burning!

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