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roscobbc

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Fri 05 Jan 18 09:17

Tyre issues in USA


https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c3-tech-performance/408...
If you've recently bought a set of US tyres for an earlier Vette or other vehicle you may want to look at this..................... Thumbs up


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eurovettes

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Fri 05 Jan 18 17:17


I am not sure that Cooper tYres are good brand - I favoUr the goodrich brand
I use Tirerack to import tyres never had a bad quality tyre from them as yet
I am seeing a friend here in San Diego tomorrow night he is a manager at Discount tire here so I will ask about this - over beer of course Smile

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roppa440

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Sat 06 Jan 18 14:44

Re: Tyre issues in USA


Coopers were much easier to get in the UK for a while. Plus they are CHEAP. Which is why many UK American car owners bought them.

BFGs were hard to get at one point as dealers were not allowed to sell them because they didn't conform to UK specs.

So places like North Hants Tyres (that many UK American car owners go to) stopped selling BFGs and Cooper was the best alternative for the budget minded at that time.

Pretty sure that is not the case now though.

Coopers are really bad on a car with any power. Great if you want to do burnouts all the time. Or drive into ditches.

Hercules HP4000 seems to be the tire of choice for the tight arse Yank owner these days. I used them myself on my Challenger 10 years ago. Not really much worse than BFGs to be honest. But much better than Coopers.

BFGs get really hard after a few years. Or used to. 20 years since I last bought a pair so things might have changed.

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roscobbc

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Sat 06 Jan 18 15:07

Re: Tyre issues in USA


roppa440 wrote (View Post):Coopers were much easier to get in the UK for a while. Plus they are CHEAP. Which is why many UK American car owners bought them.

BFGs were hard to get at one point as dealers were not allowed to sell them because they didn't conform to UK specs.

So places like North Hants Tyres (that many UK American car owners go to) stopped selling BFGs and Cooper was the best alternative for the budget minded at that time.

Pretty sure that is not the case now though.

Coopers are really bad on a car with any power. Great if you want to do burnouts all the time. Or drive into ditches.

Hercules HP4000 seems to be the tire of choice for the tight arse Yank owner these days. I used them myself on my Challenger 10 years ago. Not really much worse than BFGs to be honest. But much better than Coopers.

BFGs get really hard after a few years. Or used to. 20 years since I last bought a pair so things might have changed.

An analogy for you Dave. BFG's - the older they get - the less they wear - the less they grip - the more noise they make ('old school' squealing around 10 mph corners)


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JonnyC4

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Sat 06 Jan 18 16:08

Re: Tyre issues in USA


I've got General tires on my C4 and they are old, about 12 years. The size 275/40ZR17 98W is a tire which is not being sold here in Europe, by any premium tire brand like Goodyear, Continental, Michelin, etc.

I've emailed around to ask them if they could deliver them, as Goodyear, Continental and Michelin still deliver them in the USA. The answer was, no we don't as they don't have an E-brand on the tires. Only two brands can supply them, Falken and Toyo. But these are not my kind of safe tires.

For our MOT we need tires with an E-brand on it, as like they say, tires from the USA don't meet the specifications of Europe. So it's a mad world out there, I've ordered new ones from Tirerack in the USA and now may a guy from the MOT here Belgium explain me how to get tires in this size with an E-brand.

My old E-brand General tires are really old, but not cracked or something. But I just need them to be replaced out of "general" safety. I hope they arrive soon, so that I can fit them on the white wheels.


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Daytona Vette

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Sat 06 Jan 18 16:10

Re: Tyre issues in USA


[quote="roppa440";p="146390"] Plus they are CHEAP. Which is why many UK American car owners bought them.

Cooper was the best alternative for the budget minded at that time.

Pretty sure that is not the case now though.

Coopers are really bad on a car with any power. Great if you want to do burnouts all the time. Or drive into ditches.

Hercules HP4000 seems to be the tire of choice for the tight arse Yank owner these days.



Traditionally certainly in the past; C3 Owners have comprised the largest single majority of the CCCUK membership and it looks like you have just insulted a large number of them.

The real reason that many people chose Coopers is that there were not many available alternatives at the time

in fact In 1982 I had to import as OE, Goodyear Eagle GTs from Good year in Ohio for my 80 and then on another Vette I had Pirelli P7s, but when they stopped making them (15 x 295s) there was virtually only BF Gs and Coopers available and regardless of my wheel size the issue was the same for the standard C3 Vettes, the only other easily available Tyre at the time was an Avon as produced for the Healey 3000, but it had a poor wet weather tread.

The Cooper choice is down to virtually NO CHOICE

Coopers are not a track Tyre but they are fine with my 460 bhp, I do not rag it and I do not drive into ditches and although they are not the desired choice for wet and dry grip, the Coopers even at a width of 295 have failed to aquaplane in the wet at speeds north of 70mph.

Think before you post. ( I usually enjoy your Posts )


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roscobbc

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Sat 06 Jan 18 16:46

Re: Tyre issues in USA


I have laugh to myself when I return to the original thread (lifted off CF forum). Most owners only seem interested in what the tyre looks like, style of the tread pattern and how the white lettering looks! - safety, traction and handling don't always score too high with our cousins 'over the pond' I'm afraid!


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Nick B

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Sat 06 Jan 18 19:18

Re: Tyre issues in USA


I like to speak as I find.

I used Coopers on a 1979 pro-street Z28 I had a few years back and had no issues with them at all, they looked the business and gripped the road as well as any other tyres I've used on my yanks.

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roppa440

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Sun 07 Jan 18 17:02

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Daytona Vette wrote (View Post):

Traditionally certainly in the past; C3 Owners have comprised the largest single majority of the CCCUK membership and it looks like you have just insulted a large number of them.


If you are going to quote me and take offence then quote the full statement.

The bit you clipped off was "I used them myself on my Challenger 10 years ago".

Because have to be a tight arse too at times. They did the job on the street. Made rolling burnouts easy.

Notice how quickly I got "out of shape" with the application of a little throttle at 1min 10 secs into this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTt68Rycm6o

That was with those tyres. Even now they are only around £100 per tyre.

Of course I used 10x28 slicks on the track.



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kentvette

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Sun 07 Jan 18 17:31

Re: Tyre issues in USA


JonnyC4 wrote (View Post):......... Only two brands can supply them, Falken and Toyo. But these are not my kind of safe tires.


From a safety standpoint, I wouldn't worry about Falken tyres. They have a pretty good name and the Falken sponsored Porsche did incredibly well over in the US in the
TUSC championship a couple of years ago, running on Falken tyres, of course

We've run BFGs on our '78 ever since we've owned it (28 years this May) and had no issues with them. I did notice that when we changed the last set ('cos they were about 10 years old!) the new ones were a good deal quieter. It's a Classic Car of course, so I'm not looking to "drag" it, or throw it around as if I'm on a race track, but on a number of occasions when better than average grip was required they did what they were supposed to. Thumbs up

I did have to delay buying the latest set for a while though, until they became available with a "E" mark.



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