Another C3 Import Question!...

GCorvette

CCCUK Member
I appreciate many Corvette owners are keen to rebuild cars and import restoration priced C3s from America to do just that.

Sadly I'm not one of those, so I wanted to know if anyone here has imported a 1970-1972 'quality car' from America for their own use?

I know the approximate 30% hit from importing would be much greater and would take a car to perhaps £30-35k in costs, but what are people's thoughts. :unsure:

I have an excellent dialogue with EMC in the UK who I'd be very happy to buy from, but just looking at the other side of the coin logistically as I always do.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Nassau65

CCCUK Member
Prices for chrome bumper C3 cars are on the up in the US mainly due to price of earlier C2 models being out of most people’s reach, so the next step up is the Early C3’s. Price stateside really depends on who’s selling it. Dealers will be much higher than private sellers, same as anywhere. Import tax is not too much to worry about as its only 5% VAT due. ( vehicle price plus shipping). The dreaded ebay.com is a good place to start for an idea on prices. If you want the best available try Corvette Mike, mershons, or Rogers Corvette centre. They will have show quality vehicles at a price.
 

Chuffer

CCCUK Member
My advice would be deal with reputable dealers with top notch credentials in the UK . That way you can see cars in the flesh , inspect them yourself , take an independent expert with you if needs be for peace of mind ( I am sure a well clued up CCCUK member could help ) . You can test drive it too so as to be happy with it . Once a car has crossed the pond and is sitting on your drive , you`re stuck with mate , warts and all . The 30% hit you talk of could be invested in the best you can afford in he UK , plus the $ to £ Sterling rate is pants at the moment so that`s more money down the pan .
 

Nassau65

CCCUK Member
It does take some bottle in buying cars sight unseen. Pictures and descriptions can be deceiving. Specialised high end Corvette dealers have reputations to consider and are generally honest. Pro team are also very well respected in Corvette circles. Vehicle inspections are available for $350 ish. Very professional and through Backed by insurance, and take some of the dangers of buying unseen. The last one I had done was for a 1957 thunderbird, they went through everything. Was very pleased with their service. I don’t usually have inspections done on 1974-82 corvettes but would have it done on 1968-73 if I didn’t know the seller stateside, or saw the car in person.
Let’s not forget that most of the C3’s in our country now were at one time imported from the USA. Very few were ever sold new in our country.
You will probably find that chrome bumper C3’s are actually cheaper in the UK than the US at the present time.
 

Chuffer

CCCUK Member
Agree that most C3`s in the UK were at one time imports from the US , and possibly via another country too at some point . But if you get a good one it means someone else had all the grief and expense to get it where it`s at now . Either that or it sat largely unused in a private collection all its life which of course often comes with its own set of problems .
 

Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
I was searching specifically for a ’70 or ‘71 LT-1 and was fruitless in the UK & Europe at the time – 2015 so I scoured the Corvette Forum C3 for sale section to find what I wanted. Due to business I couldn’t get out there at the time but the seller was a long time Forum member that had sold a few C3’s and he gave me contact details for the buyers. All checked out and heaped praise on Scott the seller.

I decided on a shipper (big mistake with my selection) and set the deal up via ESCROW where the shipper verified the car was legit, as advertised condition, all docs were present and no outstanding loans etc.. So I paid the shipper their cost and the car cost and they made payment after everything was verified correct. They did everything regarding import fee, customs etc.

4 months later I received my damaged Corvette that appears to have been sat on the deck rather than inside the container I paid for. Superficial paint damage that took a lot of work to cut & polish out.

So while your choice of Corvettes will be vast, there is an element of risk even if you do travel there and inspect it yourself there's still the shipping to deal with.
 

Nassau65

CCCUK Member
I’ve never had any damage done to any of the cars we have imported, not one. Did have a set of glass T-tops taken off a 1981 that I went to collect from East Midlands airport. ( in 1990 j They miraculously reappeared when I threatened to call the police. I’ve heard many horror stories over the years, but I’ve had no problems at all.
As for shippers, just let them ship, nothing else. If they offer other services it’s because they wanted to make out of it. This like Escrow services and inspection services are readily available, and there totally independent.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune, must have been heartbreaking for you.
 

GCorvette

CCCUK Member
Lots of excellent advice as I would have expected along with some new (to me) dealer names. Thank you.

With regard to buying here in the UK, what I am looking for, I haven't come across as yet in the last 10 months of looking.

Naturally I could buy any good 1970-1972 C3 here and have it modified but I like really enjoy the historical journey of what I own and keeping that intact as much as possible is important to me.

Were any of the C3s that you have imported for your own use 'higher $' ($30-$40k) for the same reason, because it just ticked all the right boxes?

I would only buy with an inspection and either a detailed video or having seen the car in person (outside of Covid, I am backwards and forwards to the USA.)

Essentially what I am weighing up here: :unsure:
a) Is it worth me paying more and self importing from a reputable dealer to get what I want?
b) Buying cheaper, getting it here and having it 'sorted' to achieve the right car.

I'm in no rush to buy, but I do want the right car as I know of old, for me, just owning something isn't enough.
It has to be 100% what I wanted or it niggles me. 🤪
 

Nassau65

CCCUK Member
A few cars I’ve imported have been in that price bracket. Purchased because they were nice looking cars of models I wanted in colours I liked. Independent inspections were positive and they were purchased. Others I viewed personally while in the US ( like you, I am a regular traveller to the states, pre Covid) and I decided they were OK. I’ve never bought a car that I’ve regretted buying.
 

Jack Cooper

Well-known user
I recall a few months ago, there was a silver chrome-bumper C3 (not sure of actual year) advertised for sale on this forum. Valued at £80K but offered at £60K I think.
It was (still is, presumably) an NCRS Top Flight Corvette, which had been restored in The States prior to UK importation.
J.C. (1911)
 

Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
I recall a few months ago, there was a silver chrome-bumper C3 (not sure of actual year) advertised for sale on this forum. Valued at £80K but offered at £60K I think.
It was (still is, presumably) an NCRS Top Flight Corvette, which had been restored in The States prior to UK importation.
J.C. (1911)
I went to see that. Nice 427 / 400 tri power. Made what I thought was a good offer but he flat turned it down. It's now going to auction at Ascot in April
 

Chuffer

CCCUK Member
I freely admit my 1980 is not a major league C3 like you guys are talking about but it is still a warning about the pitfalls of shipping . My car came from a 27 year stint in Japan after leaving the US in 1989 . I saw the photos of it still in Japan on a UK dealers website who was about to ship it over and really liked the mods carried out and the fabulous colour . I expressed an interest and put down a returnable deposit if I didn`t like once it was in the UK . It took about 5 months to arrive , probably by a smoky old tramp steamer that called at every port in the world . When it arrived , the dealer said it had received some front end body work damage en route and he needed to get it repaired before I went to view it , so another delay :( When I finally saw it the drivers side footwell carpets with thick with black marine oil that he just could not clean off . I used that as a bargaining point and replaced all the fitted carpets with new as part of my own interior improvements . The point is , if I had imported that car myself I would have ended up with even more things to rectify and someone would have already took my money and run . The dealer had also previously imported a Ferrari 355 from Japan that arrived with a smashed windscreen . That would have been a cheap fix :eek: As I keep on saying , Caveat Emptor !
 

Mad4slalom

Well-known user
Hi , having just been through the process of sourcing ,buying and shipping a 72 from the US to the UK I would say to definately choose a shipper on reccomendation , I went from an ad and on what I was promised by the shipper, it eventually arrived , weeks later than promised, a bit abused and neglected scratched and chipped and with four RPO2’s dumped on the new vinyl passenger seat. That said, it arrived, intact , but it arrived .a long frustrating wait to get it registered but done now and all forgotten.bought sight unseen but only because I had faith in the vendor as he and his son had body off restored 13 different vettes over the years and was president of a corvette club. I was looking specifically for an older restoration that had been used and tested since, something I could tinker with ,and gradually improve over time.I was able to look through the club archives and see the restoration through monthly newsletters over a 2 year period. This gave me the confidence that the car had been done right. you say pictures dont tell the whole story and two peoples ideas of condition can differ widely.
the paint job looked great in pictures but in fact it has over the six years since completion “sunk” showing previous repairs and flaws , the car was not stripped to gelcoat as it should have been, it is still very good and a good driver quality job. I have flatted and mopped it and corrected a lot of the paint, still a work in progress. I was previously a car painter so am fussy, the car was possibly “mint “ to the vendor and he possibly never even saw the things I see in the paint.
mechanically I am more than thrilled with the car with a warmed rebuilt 4 bolt motor , all the drivetrain rebuilt or replaced on a restored and frame shop tweeked to factory specs chassis. the car has 4k on it since completion so still pretty much looks like new under the hood , and underneath . The interior is very good with new seat covers door cards carpetsand dash, there are other bits that I can improve with time but evrything works, all vaccuum system including astro ventilation, new brake, fuel lines, rotors, rebuilt calipers, exhaust, wheels, tyres, fuel tank and lines. Etc etc. This car ended up landed here with all charges paid for a tad over 26 k. probably about what it is worth over here, may even make a thousand or two I dont know. the prices being asked on the continent are way higher than in the uk, whether they actually sell them at those prices I dont know either.
the point of my journey wasnt to make money but merely to get a good car at sensible money, its also feels a lot more special to me because of the fact I found it , I bought it and I got it shipped here, it arrived and I am happy when many were telling me it was too risky and that I was crazy , my bank, point blank refused to send the money as it was for a car I hadnt seen from a bloke I hadnt met in a country I hadnt been to.
to be honest, I dont think I would do it again, I just struck lucky with my vendor , I thinkI would get Gavin at Emc , or scot at CK to probably help find me something as you then have the benefit of his experience in what is good or bad and back up and advice going forward together with supply of parts and skilled workshop facilities.
I am lucky also to have two very experienced vette enthusiasts (who know my car inside out as they built it ) on the end of a call or email to help and advise me on any ongoing issues.
good luck with your search , I dont regret one bit, going the route I took to find my car 👍
 

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Nassau65

CCCUK Member
Wow, more first hand stories of shipping woes. I am now thinking how lucky we have been in Shipping cars for 40+ years, and nothing like that. Always timely arrivals and damage free. Both by container and roll on roll off.
I think also a lot of us forget exactly how old these Corvettes are. The C3 I think is probably the most popular corvette out there. Possibly because of price and by numbers available. But they are now bloody old cars. The youngest is very nearly 40 years old ( made/released 1981 for the 1982 model year) most of them lived bloody hard lives in their early years. Everyday drivers etc. It’s only now that they are considered “collector” cars. Bit like the C1 and C2 models were in the 1970’s just old worn out vettes for the most part.
Yes, buyer beware, but buy wisely and you’ve got a nice car.
 

James Vette

CCCUK Member
Lots of excellent advice as I would have expected along with some new (to me) dealer names. Thank you.

With regard to buying here in the UK, what I am looking for, I haven't come across as yet in the last 10 months of looking.

Naturally I could buy any good 1970-1972 C3 here and have it modified but I like really enjoy the historical journey of what I own and keeping that intact as much as possible is important to me.

Were any of the C3s that you have imported for your own use 'higher $' ($30-$40k) for the same reason, because it just ticked all the right boxes?

I would only buy with an inspection and either a detailed video or having seen the car in person (outside of Covid, I am backwards and forwards to the USA.)

Essentially what I am weighing up here: :unsure:
a) Is it worth me paying more and self importing from a reputable dealer to get what I want?
b) Buying cheaper, getting it here and having it 'sorted' to achieve the right car.

I'm in no rush to buy, but I do want the right car as I know of old, for me, just owning something isn't enough.
It has to be 100% what I wanted or it niggles me. 🤪
I'll go with you to pick it up from the docks as I live near the main ones if you don't mind. Seems like fun.
 

James Vette

CCCUK Member
Hi , having just been through the process of sourcing ,buying and shipping a 72 from the US to the UK I would say to definately choose a shipper on reccomendation , I went from an ad and on what I was promised by the shipper, it eventually arrived , weeks later than promised, a bit abused and neglected scratched and chipped and with four RPO2’s dumped on the new vinyl passenger seat. That said, it arrived, intact , but it arrived .a long frustrating wait to get it registered but done now and all forgotten.bought sight unseen but only because I had faith in the vendor as he and his son had body off restored 13 different vettes over the years and was president of a corvette club. I was looking specifically for an older restoration that had been used and tested since, something I could tinker with ,and gradually improve over time.I was able to look through the club archives and see the restoration through monthly newsletters over a 2 year period. This gave me the confidence that the car had been done right. you say pictures dont tell the whole story and two peoples ideas of condition can differ widely.
the paint job looked great in pictures but in fact it has over the six years since completion “sunk” showing previous repairs and flaws , the car was not stripped to gelcoat as it should have been, it is still very good and a good driver quality job. I have flatted and mopped it and corrected a lot of the paint, still a work in progress. I was previously a car painter so am fussy, the car was possibly “mint “ to the vendor and he possibly never even saw the things I see in the paint.
mechanically I am more than thrilled with the car with a warmed rebuilt 4 bolt motor , all the drivetrain rebuilt or replaced on a restored and frame shop tweeked to factory specs chassis. the car has 4k on it since completion so still pretty much looks like new under the hood , and underneath . The interior is very good with new seat covers door cards carpetsand dash, there are other bits that I can improve with time but evrything works, all vaccuum system including astro ventilation, new brake, fuel lines, rotors, rebuilt calipers, exhaust, wheels, tyres, fuel tank and lines. Etc etc. This car ended up landed here with all charges paid for a tad over 26 k. probably about what it is worth over here, may even make a thousand or two I dont know. the prices being asked on the continent are way higher than in the uk, whether they actually sell them at those prices I dont know either.
the point of my journey wasnt to make money but merely to get a good car at sensible money, its also feels a lot more special to me because of the fact I found it , I bought it and I got it shipped here, it arrived and I am happy when many were telling me it was too risky and that I was crazy , my bank, point blank refused to send the money as it was for a car I hadnt seen from a bloke I hadnt met in a country I hadnt been to.
to be honest, I dont think I would do it again, I just struck lucky with my vendor , I thinkI would get Gavin at Emc , or scot at CK to probably help find me something as you then have the benefit of his experience in what is good or bad and back up and advice going forward together with supply of parts and skilled workshop facilities.
I am lucky also to have two very experienced vette enthusiasts (who know my car inside out as they built it ) on the end of a call or email to help and advise me on any ongoing issues.
good luck with your search , I dont regret one bit, going the route I took to find my car 👍
Your C3 looks awesome. The paint brightness keeps changing when you post it, I'm guessing because of the camera.
 

Rich

Administrator
Up until last March I used to move cars on RoRo's, both loading new luxury cars for export and unloading new imported cars. There were always a number of personal vehicles coming and going. With the personal imports, they invariably had flat batteries after several weeks at sea. No problem - just jump start it and rev the cold engine as hard as you can to get some charge in the battery, before driving it off the vessel. Won't start at all? - no problem, just drag it off and leave it dockside for somebody else to deal with. Can't find any way to tie it to the deck so it doesn't move en route? No problem, lash it using a wheel spoke. Managed to catch it on a stanchion? No worries - blame the shippers. Is that a Corvette in the corner? Stand back as there will be a stampede of young drivers wanting to "have a go".

Having said that, most survive unscathed so please don't have sleepless nights.......................
 
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