Aussies buy up C8s

Roscobbc

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I don't really see the difference between a Corvette that is Hybrid, Supercharged, Turbocharged, fitted with NOS or a combination of any of these - irrespectively they have 'power-adders' installed. An all electric Corvette has far too many currently inadequate 'eggs in one basket' syndrome as I see it currently (and for immediate future) until a comprehensive charging structure is rolled out. The only brand that seems to currently have the answers is Tesla......for the moment anyway. Just waiting to see when the powers that be see fit to 'claw back' all that lost RFL and fuel tax that many Tesla owners currently escape....
 

Nassau65

CCCUK Member
Just waiting to see when the powers that be see fit to 'claw back' all that lost RFL and fuel tax that many Tesla owners currently escape....

Going to happen at some time me thinks.
 

Derek Nicol

Well-known user
Times are a changing, and the all electric corvette will be not far away.

Double edge sword.. theres good news and theres bad news.. awesome performance v no genuine V8 sound (artificial V8 sound an option).
Resistance is futile.. a bit like sticking with your Horse and Buggy 120 years ago and refusing to accept the advent of the 'Horseless Carriage'.
 
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Nassau65

CCCUK Member
Double edge sword.. theres good news and theres bad news.. awesome performance v no genuine V8 sound (artificial V8 sound an option).
Resistance is futile.. a bit like sticking with your Horse and Buggy 120 years ago and refusing to accept the advent of the 'Horseless Carriage'.
So true. I remember a episode of upstairs downstairs where the chauffeur wants to take Lord Bellamy to parliament in their new Rolls Royce, but his Lordship refuses to take the “ contraption “ and wants to take the carriage.
 

Roscobbc

Moderator
One of my previous company cars was a Lexus IS300H. Great car. Good performance from the 2.5 ltr hybrid powerplant plus genuine 40 mpg urban driving. The only really gross thing about it was the artificial sound button. Press that and you would get a faux 3 ltr V6 race engine sound played through a specific dash top speaker synchronised with cars engine speed. Pathetic or what? Only something a pre-pubescent 40 year old Japanese marketing executive could consider adding to an 'Adult' car.
 

Nassau65

CCCUK Member
My dads been a yank petrol head since he was 17, I’m trying to get him to get a Tesla. He’s showing a interest in electric cars, and I would like him to have one in his lifetime. At least it’s American.
 

Derek Nicol

Well-known user
until a comprehensive charging structure is rolled out.

Have you seen the Gridserve Electric Forecourt at Great Notley, Braintree, Edison Way, A131, CM77 7AP?
The first of many. Shops , Cafe, Car sales and enough charging capacity to jump start Frankenstein.
Thats the way forward.
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
1. There have been lawsuits here in the USA as people crossing the streets and getting run over and/or killed because an electric car could not be heard.
So now laws state electric must make noise

2. Still no batteries have been made that last very long, to the point 35% of those who bought electric dumped them and went back to gas
and replacing batteries is very, very expensive and not easy to find replacement ones

3. Nowhere has the A/C electric grids were designed to support huge amounts of battery charge stations and as it is many areas in the USA have to go rolling brown outs. Wait until all this requires millions of 220 volt charge stations.

4. Since these batteries do not hold a charge long then design is having to have more batteries on-board adding far more weight to vehicles

5. Charge uptimes are very long and not suited when vehicle needs to be used often

6. Most likely the electric front-wheel drive for Corvette will be used just in corners and gas engine for the rear wheels
C8 chassis was designed as there is a center tunnel that later batteries will be added, so will a lot more total weight to C8s total weight and change the front/rear weight ratio
 

Derek Nicol

Well-known user
The only really gross thing about it was the artificial sound button. Press that and you would get a faux 3 ltr V6 race engine sound played through a specific dash top speaker synchronised with cars engine speed. Pathetic or what?

I posted this before somewhere, dont know if you saw it... (funny imho)...


 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
My dads been a yank petrol head since he was 17, I’m trying to get him to get a Tesla. He’s showing a interest in electric cars, and I would like him to have one in his lifetime. At least it’s American.
There are many cases now of the Tesla breaking out with fires and burning to the ground for no none reason, always it has been the
batteries starting the fires

Also, many cases of the car on its own crashing when stupid is driverless, but law is you must always have your hands on steering wheel
Add the morons that have crashed to find they got out of driver's seat while car is driving and go screw off in the back seat :-(

Tesla spies on drivers with on-board video to see drivers sleeping or playing video games to on cellphones
 

Derek Nicol

Well-known user
2. Still no batteries have been made that last very long, to the point 35% of those who bought electric dumped them and went back to gas
and replacing batteries is very, very expensive and not easy to find replacement ones

3. Nowhere has the A/C electric grids were designed to support huge amounts of battery charge stations and as it is many areas in the USA have to go rolling brown outs. Wait until all this requires millions of 220 volt charge stations.

4. Since these batteries do not hold a charge long then design is having to have more batteries on-board adding far more weight to vehicles

5. Charge uptimes are very long and not suited when vehicle needs to be used often

6. Most likely the electric front-wheel drive for Corvette will be used just in corners and gas engine for the rear wheels
C8 chassis was designed as there is a center tunnel that later batteries will be added, so will a lot more total weight to C8s total weight and change the front/rear weight ratio

With all due respect, theres a lot of often repeated misinformation or 'fud' (fear uncertainty & doubt) there.
Electric cars have done over 200,000 miles on a battery pack and typically last over ten years. The biggest problem is Nissan, who foolishly didnt use liquid cooling, in places like Arizona... big premature battery degredation.
Most vehicle charging is done at home between midnight and four am which helps balance the grid instead of having to ramp up electricity production in the day and shut it down at night. This can be further smoothed out with large stationary storage batteries.
There are no problems with the batteries holding charge.
With the best ev's now you can add 60 miles of range in just 5 minutes (this slows as they get close to full). This will only improve.
Ive never heard of a hybrid that only uses electric power in corners.. makes no sense.
If the batteries are between the driver and passenger low down they will probably improve the front/rear weight ratio. EV's are known for sticking to the road like glue because of the low down weight in the battery packs and are extremely difficult to roll over.
 

Derek Nicol

Well-known user
There are many cases now of the Tesla breaking out with fires and burning to the ground for no none reason, always it has been the
batteries starting the fires

Also, many cases of the car on its own crashing when stupid is driverless, but law is you must always have your hands on steering wheel
Add the morons that have crashed to find they got out of driver's seat while car is driving and go screw off in the back seat :-(

Tesla spies on drivers with on-board video to see drivers sleeping or playing video games to on cellphones

The incidence of vehicle fires in ev's per mile driven is tiny compared to vehicles carrying liquid fuel. I will grant you that putting the buggers out isnt so easy.
Idiots are idiots. Tesla monitors drivers on the beta self driving program and cancels their use of it if they are idiots.
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
Very seldom see on the news of a fuel based vehicle just starting its own fire but countless for electric vehicles

Just last week :
As part of GM’s commitment to safety, experts from GM and LG have identified the simultaneous presence of two manufacturing defects in the same battery cell as the root cause of battery fires in certain Chevrolet Bolt EVs. (in other word, feds called a major recall on Bolt)
Second time in less than a year of Bolt fires and recalling the same Bolts again after last recall fix

As a result, GM will be conducting a new recall for the previous population of all Bolt EVs (2017-2019) to address the risk of battery fires in these vehicles.

As part of this recall, GM will replace defective battery modules in the recall population. We will notify customers when replacement parts are ready. While we prepare to conduct this recall, we are asking customers to take the following steps until the new remedy has been performed:
1. Customers should, whether or not they received the current software update, return their vehicle to the 90% state of charge limitation using Hilltop Reserve mode (for 2017-2018 model years) or Target Charge Level (for 2019 model year) mode. If customers are unable to successfully make these changes, or do not feel comfortable making these changes, we are asking them to visit their dealer to have these adjustments completed.
2. Additionally, we ask that customers charge their vehicle after each use and avoid depleting their battery below approximately 70 miles of remaining range, where possible.
3. Out of an abundance of caution, customers should continue to park their vehicles outside immediately after charging and not leave their vehicles charging overnight.
In the meantime, customers who have not visited their dealer to receive the advanced diagnostics software should visit their nearest Chevrolet EV dealer to obtain the update. After obtaining the software, customers should still limit their state of charge to 90% and otherwise follow the advice above.
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A 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid, the automaker's newest model, caught fire in Haverford, Penn., on Tuesday night for reasons as yet unknown to authorities. ... The law firm also said that the driver forced the door open to escape before the Model S erupted into flames
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Does not take a lot of searching to find Tesla burning to the ground along with other makes
View :
battery fires

Here is like 100 plus Tesla in the USA that burned to the ground
View :
Many Burned UP
 

Derek Nicol

Well-known user
Very seldom see on the news of a fuel based vehicle just starting its own fire but countless for electric vehicles.

Youve hit the nail on the head... theres an ev fire and the media are all over it.
Countless petrol fires and nobody takes any interest (unless its a US mail van).
Have a look for the statistics, liquid fuel vehicles have far more fires.

Im aware of the Chevy Volt problem, last i heard they were working on the battery management software to fix it.
 

Roscobbc

Moderator
Most automotive fires that originate from a liquid source are not caused by petroleum - mainly diesel, but primarily brake and clutch fluid when the plastic master cylinders split in a collision and spill on to an ignition source (exhaust manifold) - has got me wondering about power steering fluid and a/c content. However once spilt diesel 'wicks' on an absorbent surface (like upholstery, cardboard packaging in a van or lorry) its virtually impossible to exthinquish with a portable fire extinquisher - in fact if the vehicle on fire is partly constructed from aluminum (or glass fibre) the temperatures created by the 'wicked' diesel burning are sufficient to potentially ignite the aluminium - starting an even worse fire situation.
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
Tesla controls press marketing of electric vehicles and does not like negative press so every time one of his burns to the ground
he markets press to talk about fuel vehicles

Cannot do a compare as the amount of gas engines vehicles on the road to electric of course they can say more fuel fires
But the numbers change a lot when comparing gas engine vehicles no older than 5 years to same years for electric

Cannot say outside the USA, but I have seen a couple of Teslas on fire but in 55 years of driving never have I seen a gas engine car just start
on fire for no reason, where battery starting electric fires.
 
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