Does anyone know this C7?

[Pinhead]

Pretty risky IMO buying a cat S vehicle unless it is the bargain of the century with a capital B. Certainly a vehicle of this calibre.
Many/probably most potential buyers would be put off by it, insurance as said previously would cost more, and if anything did happen to it and it was written off, they payout by the insurance company would be low.
Also it would probably be written off for not so much damage because it is/was a category S to begin with.
Buyer beware or think very carefully here me thinks

I quite agree
But I will add there will always be a buyer for something a bit dodgy if it's cheap enough
The problem here is the seller has not reflected the catS status in the price although I will give him credit for declaring the fact its a Cat S as so many do not

 

[Nassau65]

I quite agree
But I will add there will always be a buyer for something a bit dodgy if it's cheap enough
The problem here is the seller has not reflected the catS status in the price although I will give him credit for declaring the fact its a Cat S as so many do not

Indeed, the seller is quite upfront on its status. And yes, there’s an ass for every seat as they say.

 

[Roscobbc]

Indeed, the seller is quite upfront on its status. And yes, there’s an ass for every seat as they say.

Am I correct in thinking it is a legal requirement for 'trades-people' to state/inform a potential purchaser the advertised vehicle is 'Cat Recorded'........whereas for a 'private' seller there isn't the same 'obligation'...........and why you'll see the cars 'fronted' by non-registered traders?

 

[Pinhead]

Am I correct in thinking it is a legal requirement for 'trades-people' to state/inform a potential purchaser the advertised vehicle is 'Cat Recorded'........whereas for a 'private' seller there isn't the same 'obligation'...........and why you'll see the cars 'fronted' by non-registered traders?

Yes its a legal requirement for a motor trader to declare a previous write off or milage discrepancy and any known faults
They must also provide a warranty

The sale of goods act provides very strong protection from dodgy sellers
But unfortunately it's hard to enforce

One way round this that is used by the famous accrington based dealer of imported UAE cars is to not register the car leaving it to the buyer to do gets them out of the legal obligations

 

[Chevrolet]

Am I correct in thinking it is a legal requirement for 'trades-people' to state/inform a potential purchaser the advertised vehicle is 'Cat Recorded'........whereas for a 'private' seller there isn't the same 'obligation'...........and why you'll see the cars 'fronted' by non-registered traders?

Will/should be recorded on the cars V5 throughout its life also. See above BuyaCar article:

"A Category S (or Cat S) car is one that has suffered structural damage, but is still deemed to be repairable, albeit at greater expense than its market value. If it is repaired, then the car’s salvage category is recorded on the V5 and remains with the vehicle for life, which reduces its appeal for many drivers and makes it worth less when it comes to sell it on."

 

[Pinhead]

Personally I think the insurance write off system needs a shake up
A car can be very badly damaged and if the insurance repair the car it has no blight on its record
While a small amount of damage can result in a write off just because the body shop has a 3 month que and hire car costs want to be avoided
A good friend of mine bought a brand new M3 convertible when they just came out (e46 shape) it was close to £50k 20 years ago and they were selling above list if you could get one due to the 18 month -2 year waiting list
He had a bit of a prang in it and it should have been written off
But the fact that the insurance couldn't replace it they re shelled the car
This was a complete re build taking months
And at the end of it all not a blight on its history

The us car fax system is better in this regard because everything that gets done to the car by a registered business is recorded and something like this would be great over here IMO

 

[Chevrolet]

One way round this that is used by the famous accrington based dealer of imported UAE cars is to not register the car leaving it to the buyer to do gets them out of the legal obligations

Well, not that we are going to buy a UAE car are we? But how does that work? If that dealer is passing himself off as a private seller to buyers, including on Ebay, presumably he gives them an invoice saying something like "Sold as seen/No warranty given or implied". I do if I sell a car privately. If he discloses he is a trader (sole trader or limited company status) the invoice will show that presumably. In that case, not sure why the car not being registered, gets him out of the legal obligations unless thats what the law says?

Club member Mossless was looking at a UAE car in the UK the other week. He commented that - "I just did a check on the UAE MOI site and like I expected its been involved with a few accidents one where the whole car is listed as damaged. Some pictures but they aren't very clear. Anyone looking into a UAE import the site is free to use and I suggest it" Good bit of info there/hadn't heard of that website before.

 

[Pinhead]

Well, not that we are going to buy a UAE car are we? But how does that work? If that dealer is passing himself off as a private seller to buyers, including on Ebay, presumably he gives them an invoice saying something like "Sold as seen/No warranty given or implied". I do if I sell a car privately. If he discloses he is a trader (sole trader or limited company status) the invoice will show that presumably. In that case, not sure why the car not being registered, gets him out of the legal obligations unless thats what the law says?

Club member Mossless was looking at a UAE car in the UK the other week. He commented that - "I just did a check on the UAE MOI site and like I expected its been involved with a few accidents one where the whole car is listed as damaged. Some pictures but they aren't very clear. Anyone looking into a UAE import the site is free to use and I suggest it" Good bit of info there/hadn't heard of that website before.

The accrington seller is quite happy to be a trader
But selling an unregistered car means it's not classed uner the same rules it's like a trade sale with no warranty

 

[Nassau65]

“Does it come with a warranty?”
“Of course sir, until it leaves my premises “

 

[Chevrolet]

“Does it come with a warranty?”
“Of course sir, until it leaves my premises “

I was wondering about the "test drive." On Trade Plates presumably? But maybe you dont get one, if you can't put TPs on a car that hasn't been registered in the UK?

 

[Chevrolet]

Club member Mossless was looking at a UAE car in the UK the other week. He commented that - "I just did a check on the UAE MOI site and like I expected its been involved with a few accidents one where the whole car is listed as damaged. Some pictures but they aren't very clear. Anyone looking into a UAE import the site is free to use and I suggest it" Good bit of info there/hadn't heard of that website before.

Just been talking to a guy who has returned to UK after 15 years in Dubai. He mentioned the EVC (Emirates Vehicle Gate) website (can't get that to respond). See that MOI stands for Ministry of Interior from the below. Telling me that the extreme heat out there can cause problems for cars electrics?

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