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TheEscapist

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P.S. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Does the car drive OK? If that light had never come on is there anything you'd be worried about?
Sometimes these digital things are too clever for their own good.
EML is sometimes called "the worry light". Try not to let it become the panic light.
That was my approach really but alive got a Chevrolet above telling me to play safe and get the dealer to recover it. I did wonder of the warranty is pan-European if that’s a good option and then at least I know I’m covered and maybe they will actually look after the car moving forward when I’m in France.
 

TheEscapist

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Wow that does surprise me! The guys in Notts have purchased numerous UK C8s, C7s and Camaros from them. I bought my C7 from them. Sorry you are having this experience/frustrating to say the least, especially being 600 miles away! Personally I'd play safety first. You should have a pan European Warranty on it. Phone that nearest dealer and ask what they can do for you? Them to collect it at their/GMs warranty cost?
Who are the guys in Notts?
 

teamzr1

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Any dealer who is selling C8s should be supporting the GM warranty, but this is so simple
IF they do not have a OTA setup then they do it as done for decades and plug into the DLC port with a GM diagnostics tool, the new version
which replaced the older Tech-II and be able to see what versions of the software segments are and then compare it to the newest segments with latest TSB segment versions

With the GM tool that is internet connected to GMs controller software, it auto compares the segments versions and if system sees newer versions it than loads it into the diag tool and uploads those newer segments into the controller(s)

Any dealer in France should have the balls to simply either do the OTAs there or via the older way with GM diag tool, knowing your away from home of the UK

The dealer who sold you this C8 should have done all software updates right before giving the C8 to new owner and calling them
if they did that, then they would have said they had done so

The pisser is GM selling new C8s in the UK should have a process knowing Onstar does not work there to assure all selling dealers in UK how the frick to do OTAs or via diag tool
Considering the countless TSBs as to the DCT seen in 2020 to even 2024 Z06s having DCT issues and that is with the 3rd gen design of this mexican DCT

Here is an example of me looking at a 2008 Caddy's PCM calibration and from that I could compare versions as being older or newest code segments

This would be a lot easier if
TheEscapist had bought an OBD-II scanner that would allow connecting to the TCM of DCT and see if any DCT DTCs tripped and what they are as that could show a minor issue or DTCs saying go to dealer for repairs

Onstar when DTCs trip contact the owner when repairs are seen as Onstar collects and monitors all DTCs the C8 trips

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teamzr1

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Just an example why wanting a good OBD-II scanner allows me in this case to select any of the different controllers of this 2011 Corvette
which then allows me to query each for any DTCs it tripped or monitor how as example the a6 tranny functions as when being driven

Cheap scanner only allows connecting to the PCM, Powertrain
Check if your scanner allows connecting to the TCM controller for DCT

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Chevrolet

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Who are the guys in Notts?
Mick Gilbert (club member) is one of them, he's on his 2nd C8. He responded to your C8 Corvette UK Facebook post asking what tracker model you are getting fitted at Ian Allan. Message him thru Facebook if you would like his advice?
 

TheEscapist

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Mick Gilbert (club member) is one of them, he's on his 2nd C8. He responded to your C8 Corvette UK Facebook post asking what tracker model you are getting fitted at Ian Allan. Message him thru Facebook if you would like his advice?
Ok will do. Thanks.
 

TheEscapist

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UPDATE:

Just had a long chat with Ian Allen service department and things seem to be done differently in the UK.

Firstly, of the 380 C8s sold there has been no common issue of DCT faults I’m told. A few cars have come in for service work but it’s random things and no common issues. I have to hope that’s true.

They also never do software updates. They init do a specific update IF a fault code needs one. Behind that no cars are updated. That seems very bizarre to me but he was adamant. So all uk cars are running same software from manufacture.

They have also never done a DCT flush and filter clean. At 7,500 miles not before they change a canister and top up the fluid but nothing else. Again very different to the experience of the US.

Apparently warranty is good and covers everything but some parts can take time to arrive.

So all in all, I’m feeling it’s a great car but with no OTA updates, dealer software updates or preventative flushing maybe the car isn’t as well supported as it could be!

Comments please.
 

Stingray

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I think Ian Allan are consistent in their approach as they've resisted any software updates on C7 in the absence of specific problems with the car. Mine's not a UK car and has never been under any form of UK warranty but their approach has been the same. I think they are following the line from GM. When my car was newer it was in for routine service and Ian Allan did some modest safety recalls on it without charge, apparently in line with GM policy.

At one point I went to a big Chevy dealer in California (SF Bay Area) thinking they'd have a ready supply of Corvette parts. Nope, had to be ordered in and took several days to arrive. Not cheap either, but a whole lot cheaper than in UK.

Enjoy!
 

teamzr1

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UPDATE:

Just had a long chat with Ian Allen service department and things seem to be done differently in the UK.

Firstly, of the 380 C8s sold there has been no common issue of DCT faults I’m told. A few cars have come in for service work but it’s random things and no common issues. I have to hope that’s true.

They also never do software updates. They init do a specific update IF a fault code needs one. Behind that no cars are updated. That seems very bizarre to me but he was adamant. So all uk cars are running same software from manufacture.

They have also never done a DCT flush and filter clean. At 7,500 miles not before they change a canister and top up the fluid but nothing else. Again very different to the experience of the US.

Apparently warranty is good and covers everything but some parts can take time to arrive.

So all in all, I’m feeling it’s a great car but with no OTA updates, dealer software updates or preventative flushing maybe the car isn’t as well supported as it could be!

Comments please.

So the seller over like 2 years sells like 380 C8s, when GM built over 60,000 C8s in 2 years and he knows it all
Add those 380 due to seasons or weather do not get many miles driven and he knows best that TSB updates are not needed
Are you fricking kidding me !
C8s per year are averaging over 600 plus TSBs, and he thinks controller updates are not needed ?
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it is wrong that the DC filter is just 7,500 mile mark, it OR 1 year of use

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The DCT has been plagued with internal dirt, so much so the maker of DCT this year had to fire the vendor that made the DCT case and go to another vendor.
So many owner complaints of DT issues that the federal government group has started last year an investigation

End of last summer the DCT was such an issue, gm stopped shipping completed C8 to dealers where customers waited over 3 months to get their C8s that they pre-paid for

GM did not spend millions of dollars for the OTA system because no updates were needed, as your seller feels is not needed
I mentioned GM has offices in Ireland and should be contacted as to how UK customers can get the TSB controller software updates
that GM did for a good reason

That is a piss poor seller/dealer who only sold 380 C8s and thinks no customer support is just fine
 

Chevrolet

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Comments please.
Phone Neil at Parts USA in Stockport. They are the only GM/C8 authorised repairer/service oulet in the UK in addition to IA. Tell him your problem (engine light/PO700 code/car has lost power when driving/you are in France 600 miles away. Ask him for his recommendation (local dealer or OK to drive home as is?)
 

teamzr1

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The fricking fact a DTC tripped pointing to a possible DCT issue and the seller/dealer just ignores it ! ?

The eighth-generation (C8) Chevrolet Corvette became one of the most coveted sports cars when it went on sale in 2020. And it is a top-performing sports car the Z06 model even won Road & Track's 2023 Performance Car of the Year award
.But as the C8 left dealers' lots, online C8 Corvette communities were abuzz with owners complaining about transmission failures.
Meanwhile, despite having filed numerous Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) and a voluntary emissions recall around these issues, GM has otherwise been publicly quiet about the problems—until now.

Federal agencies, GM, and Tremec
have not made any statements as to what the cause or causes of these select transmission issues might be.
The TSBs and the voluntary emissions recall do not reference any specific driver transmission failure complaints, and R&T is not drawing any conclusions as to the source(s) of the transmission issues.
To get more clarity, however, R&T closely examined the 17 TSBs filed by GM, and spoke with eight C8 owners, Tremec, and industry experts.

The Tremec TR9080 is an eight-speed, dual-clutch transmission that is proprietary to the C8 Corvette. When it works, it really works.
But online Corvette forums (which are known to attract a vocal minority of customers with negative experiences) are flooded with owners raising questions and reporting concerns about the transmission.
The 17 GM-issued transmission TSBs currently filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) are specifically related to the TR9080's service procedures.

Though filed through the same federal agency, a TSB isn't a recall, which is a government-required edict for safety-related issues that legally mandate repairs.
A TSB, on the other hand, addresses an issue with a vehicle that isn't deemed a threat to consumers or public safety, and manufacturers are not required to notify purchasers of these issues.
These are issues service-department employees can often sift out after retail customers have purchased and operated a new vehicle.
Automakers issue TSBs to keep service departments and vehicle owners up to speed with recurring problems specific models may experience and recommend the appropriate repairs.
Repairs associated with TSBs are generally considered optional, with service limited to customers whose vehicles show signs of a TSB-related fault. Repair costs related to TSBs may be covered under warranty terms, but the automaker is under no obligation to do the repairs after that warranty has expired or if there is no warranty.

GM issued its first TSB related to the Tremec TR9080 in October 2020. The bulletin was filed after customers began reporting check-engine lights and messages about reduced engine power without any realized loss of performance. GM instructed its technicians that affected Corvettes required a Transmission Control Module software update, specifically in the presence of two Diagnostic Trouble Codes. This TSB was updated most recently in March 2022, adding vehicles from the 2021 and 2022 model years.

In November 2021, GM issued a TSB asking dealers to collect and return all of the DCT filters taken off of C8 Corvettes during the car's initial 7500-mile or 1 year service for analysis by GM engineers.
The automaker wished to inspect the filters after reports of clogged solenoids impacting shift quality and drivability. A second filter service is required at 22,500 miles and every multiple of that thereafter, with a fluid replacement required every 45,000 miles.

That 7500-mile service is a shocking figure in the context of other performance cars.
For reference, Porsche's PDK, among the dual-clutch transmissions longest on the market, needs a fluid service every 12 years or 120,000 miles.

In July 2022, GM issued another TSB with additional instructions for dealers as it relates to addressing TR9080 service requirements. Chevrolet dealerships have stopped tearing down TR9080s, with corporate instead asking that troublesome gearboxes be pulled and replaced entirely.

The automaker is requesting that every replaced unit be returned to its engineers for analysis, complete with the fluid inside the case. Kevin Harty of Munro & Associates, a group of automotive and industrial engineering and teardown specialists, told R&T that if they are investigating the fluid, they may be searching for a wear issue within the gearbox.

"If they're looking through fluid, they are looking for wear," said Harty. "They're looking for essentially a premature failure mode, which in something like that, if it's not a catastrophic failure per se, it might be these little, more subtle failures that are related to aggressive wear."

In early March, General Motors issued a voluntary emissions recall involving certain C8 Corvette models from the 2020 and 2021 model years. According to the document, the recall is related to the vehicles' Transmission Control Module, which may incorrectly clear the loss of Diagnostic Trouble Code communications from other control modules, stemming from a direct loss of communication.

When this takes place, the gearbox will continue operating in its default settings, without abiding by the previous DTCs or illuminating a check-engine light.

Dealers are now being tasked with reprogramming the TR9080's TCMs with an updated software set
. (the whole purpose of OTA)

GM confirmed to R&T that this is the second round of communications it has sent to owners related to this emissions recall,
as the take rate on repairs did not meet the required quotas after the initial round in California.

"General Motors has decided to conduct a Voluntary Emission Recall involving certain 2020 and 2023 model year Chevrolet Corvette vehicles," the recall states
. "The Transmission Control Module (TCM), after detecting a loss of communications fault with other control modules, may incorrectly clear the loss of communications Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) when the vehicle is keyed off and, if the loss of communications fault persists, may not detect it again when the vehicle is keyed back on. If this were to happen, the transmission could operate in a default mode with no DTC set and the MIL not illuminated."
Mike Brink, the person behind the Corvette-centric Brink of Speed YouTube channel, has been very vocal about the issues he experienced with his former C8. The 2021 C8 was the fourth Corvette Brink had owned, following a line of C5, C6, and C7 Z06s. Brink managed to drive his first C8 for nearly 17,000 miles without issue before noticing some abnormal shift behaviors at low speeds.

"The easiest way for people to really understand is if they know how to drive a manual transmission," Brink told R&T. "It felt like when you start it up, the person driving the car obviously it's a computer driving it but it felt like the computer didn't know how to let the clutch out properly. And then when you're stopping, it felt like the computer didn't know how to push the clutch in. They were braking without pushing the clutch in. That's exactly what it felt like."

Tremec was unwilling to comment directly on the matter of TR9080 replacements.
 

teamzr1

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On a call with R&T, a GM spokesperson emphasized that this is a voluntary emissions recall and the automaker believes the issue has no impact on vehicle performance or safety.
Mike Brink, the person behind the Corvette-centric Brink of Speed YouTube channel, has been very vocal about the issues he experienced with his former C8. The 2020 C8 was the fourth Corvette Brink had owned, following a line of C5, C6, and C7 Z06s. Brink managed to drive his first C8 for nearly 17,000 miles without issue before noticing some abnormal shift behaviors at low speeds.

"The easiest way for people to really understand is if they know how to drive a manual transmission," Brink told R&T. "It felt like when you start it up, the person driving the car—obviously it's a computer driving it—but it felt like the computer didn't know how to let the clutch out properly. And then when you're stopping, it felt like the computer didn't know how to push the clutch in. They were braking without pushing the clutch in. That's exactly what it felt like."

Brink published a video to his YouTube channel on the day of the dealer inspection, at which point he was told a full transmission replacement could be in the cards. But the owner claims the service department was singing a different tune after GM got word of the situation.
"They thought they were going to have to give me a full, brand-new transmission," Brink said. "But they spoke to GM, told them what was going on, and GM said, well, I think they basically said, most likely you're probably gonna have to get a new one, but try this first because this has worked on a couple of other cars."

Instead of a new gearbox, Brink's 2020 C8 Corvette received some updated software. The car underwent a Global Reset of its computer systems and a new calibration for the aforementioned Transmission Control Module. The whole process only took a day once GM signed off on the repair. Brink never experienced another transmission issue with the car after that point, driving it another 2000 miles or so before selling the car to a local enthusiast. The situation wasn't enough of a hassle to taint Brink's love of the Corvette brand, as he's gone ahead and purchased a new 2023 model.

Not everyone's situation was as straightforward as Brink's. In an interview with R&T, 2021 C8 Corvette convertible owner Mike Perry explained that he first experienced issues with the TR9080 after a post-break-in drive on the roads of the North Georgia Mountains. After passing a slower-moving vehicle, Perry believed his car felt off. He says his C8's rpm started surging and the car wouldn't upshift on its own, leaving Perry to swap over to manual mode in an attempt to calm the V-8 down. On another mountain drive two days later, the check-engine light illuminated. That was quickly followed by a text message from OnStar asking Perry to return the car to the dealer within 24 hours.

On the drive to his dealer appointment later that week, Perry experienced additional strange behavior from the Corvette. The C8 stalled while approaching a red light, according to Perry. A turn of the key was able to get the car restarted, but selecting drive resulted in some serious bucking.


"I put it into gear, and it was wanting to just really buck, and something was wrong," Perry said. "You could tell. So I immediately switched it into the manual mode, and then drove it the rest of the way with no issue whatsoever in manual mode the whole way."

Once the dealership had a chance to investigate Perry's concerns, GM corporate determined the car required a main valve body replacement for the transmission. Service records provided to R&T show the car had just 1250 miles at the time of the failure. A parts backorder meant that the process took three weeks from start to finish. Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of Perry's troubles. Less than a month after the valve body swap, Perry once again found himself having issues on Georgia's mountain roads.

"I was on a tight corner, came out of it and then saw that the check-engine light had come on again," Perry said. "Took it back there and, you know, same type of situation. It was probably within a month of each other. And then they just said GM recommends a total DCT replacement."

Perry's C8 Corvette had done just 1462 miles before the replacement gearbox was installed, according to service records. The car has remained trouble-free in the years since the replacement, according to Perry, who now has around 8700 miles on the odometer.

"Car's been an absolute joy," said Perry. "It's a blast and just a fun car to have. Lucky to be in the group and an owner for sure."
Matt Wilson, a driver in NASCAR's ARCA Menards Series, experienced similar issues with his 2020 C8 Corvette 1LT. "Basically I came to a stop at a toll booth and the car shuddered, kinda lurched forward about a foot, and stalled," Wilson told R&T. "I was able to restart it, but it was in some form of limp-home mode and only had gears two, four, and six."

Wilson said he also experienced bucking behavior at low speeds. The car struggled to manage shifts at lower speeds, leaving the impression that it was hunting for a gear, according to Wilson. The car had just 7200 miles on the clock.

"They kept the car for a month," said Wilson. "I was told that GM had a tech bulletin out, instructing dealerships not to attempt to repair the DCTs, but to replace them and send the damaged one in for a GM autopsy. So it took a month for them to get a transmission and replace it. A very labor-intensive process, I'm sure."
Spend time on any Corvette forum and you'll find a number of other posters asserting similar stories. Owners R&T spoke with who experienced issues early on in the C8's production run received a transmission teardown at the dealership. According to one owner's service documents, the transmission's valve body was deemed to be the cause of the issue. In November 2021, GM issued a TSB stating that any C8 that displays error codes P1955 and P0867 has a failed gearbox. The automaker notice states this is the result of the odd shaft module (OSM) not being serviceable at a dealership.
 

TheEscapist

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So the seller over like 2 years sells like 380 C8s, when GM built over 60,000 C8s in 2 years and he knows it all
Add those 380 due to seasons or weather do not get many miles driven and he knows best that TSB updates are not needed
Are you fricking kidding me !
C8s per year are averaging over 600 plus TSBs, and he thinks controller updates are not needed ?
View attachment 26326

it is wrong that the DC filter is just 7,500 mile mark, it OR 1 year of use

View attachment 26327
The DCT has been plagued with internal dirt, so much so the maker of DCT this year had to fire the vendor that made the DCT case and go to another vendor.
So many owner complaints of DT issues that the federal government group has started last year an investigation

End of last summer the DCT was such an issue, gm stopped shipping completed C8 to dealers where customers waited over 3 months to get their C8s that they pre-paid for

GM did not spend millions of dollars for the OTA system because no updates were needed, as your seller feels is not needed
I mentioned GM has offices in Ireland and should be contacted as to how UK customers can get the TSB controller software updates
that GM did for a good reason

That is a piss poor seller/dealer who only sold 380 C8s and thinks no customer support is just fine
I tend t9 agree but I can’t force a dealer to do what they are adamant they don’t need to do! All you say makes sense, if that’s what we have in the UK. Why doesn’t the U.K. Corvette Owners Club insist the dealer follows the rules? It makes me wonder it takes me who has just bought a C8 to find out this? Where is the UK Corvette Owners support? very very odd…
 

TheEscapist

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So the seller over like 2 years sells like 380 C8s, when GM built over 60,000 C8s in 2 years and he knows it all
Add those 380 due to seasons or weather do not get many miles driven and he knows best that TSB updates are not needed
Are you fricking kidding me !
C8s per year are averaging over 600 plus TSBs, and he thinks controller updates are not needed ?
View attachment 26326

it is wrong that the DC filter is just 7,500 mile mark, it OR 1 year of use

View attachment 26327
The DCT has been plagued with internal dirt, so much so the maker of DCT this year had to fire the vendor that made the DCT case and go to another vendor.
So many owner complaints of DT issues that the federal government group has started last year an investigation

End of last summer the DCT was such an issue, gm stopped shipping completed C8 to dealers where customers waited over 3 months to get their C8s that they pre-paid for

GM did not spend millions of dollars for the OTA system because no updates were needed, as your seller feels is not needed
I mentioned GM has offices in Ireland and should be contacted as to how UK customers can get the TSB controller software updates
that GM did for a good reason

That is a piss poor seller/dealer who only sold 380 C8s and thinks no customer support is just fine
hI again,

your tech sheet above is for model year cars 20-21. Are you 100% sure that same goes for 22 or 23MY cars like mine? I need t9 be 100% sure before insisting with Ian Allen..
 

teamzr1

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Someone needs to grab that guy by the balls and remind him he has to support his customers as to the GM warranty
You guys need to group up and contact GM offices in Ireland and demand they do something with that dealer in
they have refused to support the C8s and see how dealer likes it that GM refuses any new C8s going to that dealer
Someone here posted that dealer also did not support C7s for doing TSB software updates

Dealer does not have to have a OTA setup, as I mentioned they load the GM diag tool with updates for the C8 and
simply plug that into the DLC port under the dash and toll will upload all updates into the controllers

Still have not seen from you if you tried to see if your scanner allowed to connect to the TCM and see what DTCs exist, if any
as that would at least tell if there is important DTCs tripped or if the P0700 was pointing to a minor issue

If in question that the external DCT filter needs to be replaced, it is mounted on left side of DCT and is easy to replace
by ordering first, a new filter

dctfill.jpg
 

teamzr1

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hI again,

your tech sheet above is for model year cars 20-21. Are you 100% sure that same goes for 22 or 23MY cars like mine? I need t9 be 100% sure before insisting with Ian Allen..

As to fluid and filter, this problem of internal dirt still occurs in newer than 2021 C8s as I mentioned the vendor making the DCT cases was finally replaced due to dirty internals and another vendor hired to make the cases starting end of last year
also the fact the feds here started their investigation last year for 2024 MY says your DCT is in question as to problems due to crap in fluid
Beside the point as this is about why the P0700 DTC tripped with your C8
That DTC is really saying that there are possible DTCs tripped in the TCM (tranny controller) and that most of the problems for DCT has been
crap in it that causes like shift solenoids to stick

All changes when it is known if and what TCM DTCs are stored and need a scanner to see if and what they are and from that
decide if problem is corrected by controllers' software updates and being GM is doing for free 1 free DCT filter change and fluid if needed
that you want it now if you would feel better with filter changed now

We are blind now until the TCM is hooked to a scanner, and if DTCs tripped ( may have aged out by now) what are those ?

Besides the DCT
In the long run a dealer in UK has to do any corrections of GM TSBs which includes all software updates to controllers
 

TheEscapist

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Someone needs to grab that guy by the balls and remind him he has to support his customers as to the GM warranty
You guys need to group up and contact GM offices in Ireland and demand they do something with that dealer in
they have refused to support the C8s and see how dealer likes it that GM refuses any new C8s going to that dealer
Someone here posted that dealer also did not support C7s for doing TSB software updates

Dealer does not have to have a OTA setup, as I mentioned they load the GM diag tool with updates for the C8 and
simply plug that into the DLC port under the dash and toll will upload all updates into the controllers

Still have not seen from you if you tried to see if your scanner allowed to connect to the TCM and see what DTCs exist, if any
as that would at least tell if there is important DTCs tripped or if the P0700 was pointing to a minor issue

If in question that the external DCT filter needs to be replaced, it is mounted on left side of DCT and is easy to replace
by ordering first, a new filter

View attachment 26330
Just spoken again to Ian Allen service (Mark) and even though he didn’t want to, have confirmed first 12 month service, change the 7,500 mile DCT canister and check for software updates (he was still saying as follows: U.K. market isn’t the same as US market and they get This all the time From forums. Their guidance from GM is different and software updates aren’t necessary and the canister change should ne at 7,500 miles but if I really want it now I can have it done next week).

So I’m taking this up with them but deafenkng silence from all the other C8 owners in the U.K. and the U.K. Corvette Club….. looks like I’m alone at the moment and everyone else in the U.K. doesn’t want updates or US level service.
 

TheEscapist

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As to fluid and filter, this problem of internal dirt still occurs in newer than 2021 C8s as I mentioned the vendor making the DCT cases was finally replaced due to dirty internals and another vendor hired to make the cases starting end of last year
also the fact the feds here started their investigation last year for 2024 MY says your DCT is in question as to problems due to crap in fluid
Beside the point as this is about why the P0700 DTC tripped with your C8
That DTC is really saying that there are possible DTCs tripped in the TCM (tranny controller) and that most of the problems for DCT has been
crap in it that causes like shift solenoids to stick

All changes when it is known if and what TCM DTCs are stored and need a scanner to see if and what they are and from that
decide if problem is corrected by controllers' software updates and being GM is doing for free 1 free DCT filter change and fluid if needed
that you want it now if you would feel better with filter changed now

We are blind now until the TCM is hooked to a scanner, and if DTCs tripped ( may have aged out by now) what are those ?

Besides the DCT
In the long run a dealer in UK has to do any corrections of GM TSBs which includes all software updates to controllers
7,500 mile canister (i assumé filter change) is not free in the UK it seems. Quoting £500-600.
 

teamzr1

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Just spoken again to Ian Allen service (Mark) and even though he didn’t want to, have confirmed first 12 month service, change the 7,500 mile DCT canister and check for software updates (he was still saying as follows: U.K. market isn’t the same as US market and they get This all the time From forums. Their guidance from GM is different and software updates aren’t necessary and the canister change should ne at 7,500 miles but if I really want it now I can have it done next week).

So I’m taking this up with them but deafenkng silence from all the other C8 owners in the U.K. and the U.K. Corvette Club….. looks like I’m alone at the moment and everyone else in the U.K. doesn’t want updates or US level service.

The guy is talking out his ass
I worked for GM engineering and number 1 rule in GM is reducing warranty claims costs and making customers happy with reduced failures
Imagine all the DCTs GM has had to replace, and then having DCTs fail in the UK when if the dealer did what they should be doing is the controller's software update corrections which has been many for the DCT would have prevented major damage

GM is not going to be happy to find out dealer too lazy or thinks they know more than GM does
As it is here in states with all the DCT problems, owners are saying it is taking dealers here local 3 plus months to get a replacement DCT
Costs to GM warranty is around $15,000 plus dealer labor costs
Imagine time and costs to send a DCT to the UK ?
You're right,
UK Corvette clubs should contact and pressure GM in Ireland and make it known about all this

If not, a way to make a business plan

Buy the GM diag tool, subscribe to the GM monthly or yearly services which allows them to download/load the diag tool
for a car and then hook up to vehicle and have TSB updates done that way and charge a price to do that
 

teamzr1

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7,500 mile canister (i assumé filter change) is not free in the UK it seems. Quoting £500-600.

GM stating C8 under warranty gets 1 free external DCT filter change by dealer, either by 7,500 miles or 1 year
GM did that as they knew the internals were dirty and clutches shedding and why they wanted this free change
and to assure owners did so before further damage from the crap carried by the fluid
 
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