Does anyone know this C7?

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
A seller when asking big bucks should at least know what they are selling like what is

2014 63 CORVETTE C7 STINGRAY COUPE​


Says a auto tranny when photo shows a 7 speed manual and
says RHD when showing a LHD

Personally would not touch an early C7 using the LT1 engine which was only used for the first couple of years
and an oddball PCM (powertrain controller) no one could tune for some years
 

Chevrolet

CCCUK Member
Only know it because it has been for sale for a while. Maybe the previous CCCUK owner will "chirp up" here. How long in UK/#owners? Certainly looks nice:
1) Has all the "kit"/top spec 3LT with Z51 suspension/cooling/brakes. And PPF/limited edition.
2) Looks like US spec car, as has no headlight washers. If so will have passed IVA test on import. Cheaper road tax on US car than UK/Euro spec one.
3) Essential on a US car to see the CarFax report (Carfax EU website) to ensure its not a accident/flood damaged car in the US. Check it has not come from somewhere else either, like UAE etc too. Adrian Dromey saying a few weeks ago that C7s coming into UK from Eastern Europe (some of those countries covered by Carfax EU report).
Would I pay £44k for it? Definitely not.
 
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Chevrolet

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Personally would not touch an early C7 using the LT1 engine which was only used for the first couple of years
and an oddball PCM (powertrain controller) no one could tune for some years
All C7s have got the "robust" LT1 engine?
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
Would be nicer if they showed lot more photos like engine bay, underside, etc
Not sure how people can gamble by buying a high-priced car solely on what is shown in cyberspace ad
 

Roscobbc

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Hi all

I'm very keen on this car - I might go and view it... !


Does anyone know it? I notice it's got a club sticker in the rear window...

Any scope on it would be helpful, I don't want to buy a lemon!
You guys will become infamous for 'jumping in at the deep-end' with your ZR1......and thumbs-up for doing that!
It might be worth your while spending a couple of hours on-line on some of the American forums looking at the issues that seem to occur/re-occur with earlier production C7's and perhaps avoid potential issues?
I was looking at perhaps sourcing a C7 myself last year and did some research........anyone please shoot me down if I'm wrong on some of this below.
Early production auto's used the 'carry-over' transmission from the C6......nothing wrong with that I'm guessing except perhaps components etc specific to C7's could potentially become difficult to source (being specific to C7's only).
Early production 8 speed auto's (itself a great transmission IMHO) were not without problems. There is really significant information and views relating to cylinder 'defeat' systems with auto transmissions and consequent torque converter and engine damage......most seem to fall on the side immobilising the cylinder defeat.
7 speed manual transmissions seem fine. I believe there are one of two specific years of C7 production that most 'experts' tell you to try and avoid - they seemingly can have combination a of several potential problems that can occur.
Finally - there have been several immaculate looking low mileage C7's for sale here in UK for 'ever' that are perhaps salvage vehicles - one is a bronze car priced at £43K that was flood damaged.......no mention in the advert......there are/have been others as well - nothing wrong with a salvage car.......if repaired/sorted properly............but when you choose to sell the car yourself at some later date the salvage title will still be 'on file' and sellers will 'knock you down' to reflect its title......so be sure you pay a price that reflects the 'salvage' title. Other will no doubt disagree but early C7's are now 10 years old........there are not too many around and IMHO some of the prices being asked are excessive.......
 

Pinhead

CCCUK Member
Although I didn't veiw this car I enquired about it when looking for a C7
The main thing that put me off is it's suffering from the leather dash peel/lifting issue
I had some video sent of the dash and it's quite bad
This is an lt3 trim problem as the real leather shrinks as it ages and this causes the glue to fail
It's accelerated in hot states and many have been done under warranty but cooler places seem to be able to get the cars past warranty
It's been for sale over a year and compared to others on the market in that time the price isn't that out of the way so it must have been viewed by potential real buyers that have decided against it
I actually made an offer of where I thought the car was worth and it was rejected
My offer was based on advertised prices of others for sale at the time and an allowance for the dash issue
My offer was conditional on being clean car fax that I never carried out due to the counter offer being just too far away
It was up for more money back then it's had 2 price drops as far as I am aware
The current advertised price is about what they said the minimum they could take was

Personally based on what I paid for mine and what I know some others sold for it's £5k too much assuming clean title/history and no other faults than the dash
 

Stingray

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Is that car really an auto? Check out the shifter in the interior photo.

My 8-speed auto is approaching 10 years old and I haven't had any problems. Transmission fluid has been replaced with the more modern version in line with GM's recommendations. I don't think I've heard of anyone in UK having problems with the leather dash. That car may have been in a hot state before it was imported to UK.

It's a bit surprising that car hasn't sold but the combination of dash issue and those chrome wheels could easily be off-putting.
 

Stingray

CCCUK Member
I now see the detailed write-up says it's a manual although it's advertised as an auto. I can't see any evidence of a UK light conversion (no side indicators). They don't say whether the satnav has been converted.
 

Roscobbc

Moderator
Strange market out there.......very few LS3 powered C6's for sale at any price - perhaps one or two C6Z06's for sale and several C7's advertised at perhaps 'elevated' prices.....look at the Mustang market and so, so many earlier spec' ones on the market at hopelessly high prices.
 

Llewelyn

CCCUK Member
Thanks for the replies everyone - Further reading required by me I think! All I know is that I really like the look of a C7 (would have to be manual!). I definitely wouldnt want a UAE import (which I don't think the blue one is)

Locked ecu not a problem because I wouldn't want to tune it. The interior situation is a shame because one of the big draws for me is the colour scheme! @Pinhead do you have a photo of the peeling dash?
 

Roscobbc

Moderator
Thanks for the replies everyone - Further reading required by me I think! All I know is that I really like the look of a C7 (would have to be manual!). I definitely wouldnt want a UAE import (which I don't think the blue one is)

Locked ecu not a problem because I wouldn't want to tune it. The interior situation is a shame because one of the big draws for me is the colour scheme! @Pinhead do you have a photo of the peeling dash?
A significant driving experience 'upgrade' compared with C6 - 8 speed auto is quite a piece of work and suits the C7 well!
 

Stingray

CCCUK Member
do you have a photo of the peeling dash?
I've never seen car in the flesh with this problem but I think you can see it in the photos posted in the advertisement.

In the photo if you look carefully at the right hand end of the dash you can see what may be some separation of the leather from its backing just above the far right-hand air vent.

It seems a little odd there's no front number plate mount on the car. Combined with my earlier comment about light conversion I wonder whether it's actually been inspected/registered yet in UK?
 

Stingray

CCCUK Member
"Headlamp pressure washers"? Listed in the wording but I wouldn't expect them on an import and certainly can't see them on that car.

Put at the simplest there's not much indication the ad' matches the car. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the car but it does mean a buyer needs to get a clear understanding of the actual vehicle before loosening up their wallet....
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
The C7 A8 tranny has a had a crap load of problems. At least one class action lawsuit due to those issues
I've never seen car in the flesh with this problem but I think you can see it in the photos posted in the advertisement.

In the photo if you look carefully at the right hand end of the dash you can see what may be some separation of the leather from its backing just above the far right-hand air vent.

It seems a little odd there's no front number plate mount on the car. Combined with my earlier comment about light conversion I wonder whether it's actually been inspected/registered yet in UK?

This total lack of quality GM has never bothered to correct since C7s other than like the C8s which also has this screwup that is under warranty
I C8 owner, GM has had to replace all covering on dash and doors twice in 1 year :-(
Clearly under heat like in southern US states the leather like covering changes shape and the glue gives way
and worse is customers pay more as an option for this

dashcrap.jpgdashdelam.jpgdelam door.jpg
 

Chevrolet

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I can't see any evidence of a UK light conversion (no side indicators)
At a guess, they may be in the front orange reflectors? Former CCCUK PR ("KeithC7" on here) had that on his US spec import C7. Not on the mirrors, side vents or wings in the photos obviously.
 
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Chevrolet

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Thanks for the replies everyone - Further reading required by me I think! All I know is that I really like the look of a C7 (would have to be manual!). I definitely wouldnt want a UAE import (which I don't think the blue one is)

Locked ecu not a problem because I wouldn't want to tune it. The interior situation is a shame because one of the big draws for me is the colour scheme! @Pinhead do you have a photo of the peeling dash?
Can't say I'm a fan of the "Brownstone" interiors, Quote from C7 owner recently on the CCCUK Facebook page re the manual - "Tight gears 1st to 2nd common problem on M7. There's was a recall but wasn't much of a fix, MGW shifter does improve things slightly"
 
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