Jaguar

Oneball

CCCUK Member
My favourite colour for a jag. Heather. Got pulled up in the west end in 1977 in a heather XJ12. Four 17 year olds cruising about. Got pulled up and got my first breathalyser. Passed with flying colours, but got a “ producer” it was a great evening tho.
There’s a bloke down the road with and XJ6 in heather, it’s stunning. The current trend for grey cars is awful they remind me of the Spitting Image sketches with John Major and the peas!!

The pics don’t do it justice.

 

Chuffer

CCCUK Member
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Me too !!!
There’s a bloke down the road with and XJ6 in heather, it’s stunning. The current trend for grey cars is awful they remind me of the Spitting Image sketches with John Major and the peas!!

The pics don’t do it justice.

Heather was always a ` Marmite` colour IMO but I think it dis look nice on a V12 E Type . Got to be better than the current trend for Greige ( my term for greyish beige ) or cars that look like they are still in primer !!!
 

Oneball

CCCUK Member
Me too !!!

Heather was always a ` Marmite` colour IMO but I think it dis look nice on a V12 E Type . Got to be better than the current trend for Greige ( my term for greyish beige ) or cars that look like they are still in primer !!!
Remember when car parks used to look like this?

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CaptainK

CCCUK Member
As a software developer I'm having nightmares of their "Copy Nothing" statement - how on earth are they going to live without being about to copy / paste bits of website code around, copy the new photos and videos onto their server and so forth? Are they really going to re-create everything from scratch on every server and document they have? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
As a software developer I'm having nightmares of their "Copy Nothing" statement - how on earth are they going to live without being about to copy / paste bits of website code around, copy the new photos and videos onto their server and so forth? Are they really going to re-create everything from scratch on every server and document they have? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Well I certainly hope they don't copy the quality of the steel used and anti-corrosion protection of the fuel tank support cross member on my 2015 F Type that failed its MOT last December that you could poke a screwdriver through with some ease. Then there's the two fuel injectors that failed when the supercharger coupling sharted itself. The injectors were fused into the cylinder head and could not be removed with the engine in the car. Opposing metals tend to fight each other and maybe they should have known that? Engine removed then off the road for 5 months with the initial quote rising from £1,500 to £4,500 and despite this I stayed with them with the F Type replacement but looking at what's being said, no ICE and bloody awful concept designs, my current will be my last.
 

Chevrolet

CCCUK Member
Well I certainly hope they don't copy the quality of the steel used and anti-corrosion protection of the fuel tank support cross member on my 2015 F Type that failed its MOT last December that you could poke a screwdriver through with some ease. Then there's the two fuel injectors that failed when the supercharger coupling sharted itself. The injectors were fused into the cylinder head and could not be removed with the engine in the car. Opposing metals tend to fight each other and maybe they should have known that? Engine removed then off the road for 5 months with the initial quote rising from £1,500 to £4,500 and despite this I stayed with them with the F Type replacement but looking at what's being said, no ICE and bloody awful concept designs, my current will be my last.
Maybe I should stop thinking about getting a F-Type, unless it has a warranty of some sort on it? November WhatCar article extract attached:
 

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Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
Maybe I should stop thinking about getting a F-Type, unless it has a warranty of some sort on it? November WhatCar article extract attached:
When it was good it was very good. Handled like it was on rails and that exhaust note :love:

Rear tyres did 15k miles tops, one of the door pop out doodads failed on top of the previous mentioned. In the end though I got tired of having no where to hang a few shirts up for overnight trips, no reclining seats and having to bend my long golf clubs to get them passed the ridge into the boot. Oh and that other thing... you are a target for everyone especially with my bright red one. They all NEED to pass you then having achieved that goal, they slow down in front of you victorious!

The ride is very firm and the rear spoiler had a mind of its own.

I wouldn't flat out say no don't get one but make sure it's not your sole transportation.
 

Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
£100,000.00 plus

From the Mail: Jaguar boss says it has 'no desire to be loved by everybody'

Jaguar bosses have doubled-down on the company's daring rebrand and switch to electric vehicles, with its managing director saying the plan is to be 'bold and disruptive' while its chief creative officer defended its radical new look by suggesting the car firm 'has no desire to be loved by everyone'.

The comments were made overnight during Jaguar's unveiling of its new Type 00 concept car in the US.

Two versions, one in 'London Blue' and a second in a striking fuchsia tone called 'Miami Pink', were revealed to what has been a mixed public reaction.

While not a production model itself, the monumentally-proportioned car signals the design language of the three EVs that will arrive in showrooms from 2026, starting with a £100,000-plus four-door Grand Tourer.

Having already caused a major stir with its controversial rebrand last month, in which it said it will ditch the classic roaring Jaguar motif in favour of contemporary logos and released a 30-second campaign advert featuring a diverse group of models in exuberant fashion wear but no cars, executives last night spoke out to justify the decision to turn a corner on the company's century-long heritage.

Speaking to Sky News at the Type 00's launch in Miami in the early hours, managing director Rawdon Glover responded to the suggestion that the company had 'gone woke', saying: 'We want to be bold and disruptive... we're clearly in the conversation.

He added: 'More people have been talking about Jaguar for the last two weeks than - goodness, for so much longer. Car companies unveil new cars all the time and go completely unnoticed.'

Chief creative officer Gerry McGovern also welcomed and encouraged the controversy the company had created in recent weeks with 'an uncompromising creative approach' and accepted this would polarise opinion, but emphasised: 'At our very best we have never conformed.'

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While the strategy to remain 'relevant' in a full year of no car sales maybe sound, there's no way these will make it to production and even when the scaled down production model is unveiled who's going to pay over a hundred grand for a jaGUar that will likely be fraught with electrical gremlins
 

Roscobbc

Moderator
Standing 'on the fence' - I recon that Jaguar management fully realise their future as a volume car maker is very limited. ALL cars, no matter what brand, what category they fall-in to, whether a home brand/manufactured product have evolved and improved over the years. The 'imports' we have seen for years, the latest offering from Kia and Hyundai seem to be rapidly catching-up, perhaps even getting close/exceeding European cars like Audi, Mercedes, BMW etc........and then we have China, their car products perhaps currently a little questionable will no doubt significantly improve rapidly in the very ner future. Ford in the UK have seen the 'light' before getting in to financial trouble. Dropping once market leading segment cars like Mondeo, Focus and Fiesta and relying on the sales of mid-range traditionally more profitable cross-over and SUV vehicles........but even those ultimately will be under attack from the cars manufactured in 'emerging' economies.
 

Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
Standing 'on the fence' - I recon that Jaguar management fully realise their future as a volume car maker is very limited. ALL cars, no matter what brand, what category they fall-in to, whether a home brand/manufactured product have evolved and improved over the years. The 'imports' we have seen for years, the latest offering from Kia and Hyundai seem to be rapidly catching-up, perhaps even getting close/exceeding European cars like Audi, Mercedes, BMW etc........and then we have China, their car products perhaps currently a little questionable will no doubt significantly improve rapidly in the very ner future. Ford in the UK have seen the 'light' before getting in to financial trouble. Dropping once market leading segment cars like Mondeo, Focus and Fiesta and relying on the sales of mid-range traditionally more profitable cross-over and SUV vehicles........but even those ultimately will be under attack from the cars manufactured in 'emerging' economies.
Agree in the most part Ross but to alienate your existing customers and expect to start from scratch with these offerings is radical if not suicidal. Pretty sure no Kia or Hyundai is 100k + or anything like?
 

C5Steve

CCCUK Member
Agree in the most part Ross but to alienate your existing customers and expect to start from scratch with these offerings is radical if not suicidal. Pretty sure no Kia or Hyundai is 100k + or anything like?
But there is no "existing" customer base worth keeping. That's the point. Those pining for E Types of old aren't happy with the current offerings and they're not attracting anyone new to the brand with the line up they had.

They can't and won't compete with the mass market and I think that's a smart move. They're going for something truly unique (hence the "copy nothing" I guess) which is a massive gamble, but look what they've done in a few weeks. Jag is top of every news outlet and filling pages and pages of online forum space and social media content. From the perspective of exposure they've played a blinder.

Worth mentioning once more for this talking about number plates etc. This. Is. A. Concept. Car. It won't be going in the road, but you will be seeing some of the design language on the road cars. First one will be the 4 door we've seen testing.

Can't help but still be intrigued to see what they launch which is more interested than I've been over any Jag since the first F Type.
 

Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
But there is no "existing" customer base worth keeping. That's the point. Those pining for E Types of old aren't happy with the current offerings and they're not attracting anyone new to the brand with the line up they had.

I can't tell one Merc, BMW, Audi, Ford etc from another as they all evolve their designs not toss them in the crapper and start with a blank piece of paper though. The C8 Corvette is a perfect example of a design evolving and in that case over 70+ years. Yes the C8 is a marked change in direction from its predecessor but it still screams Corvette and they've sold like hot cakes.

Can't help but still be intrigued to see what they launch which is more interested than I've been over any Jag since the first F Type.

I hope they pull it off as well but I'm not confident in the direction they're heading. For the record, I've done 10 years straight with a Jag daily driver as before the F Type which I ran for 7 years I had a XFS (very quick) for 3 years at least and now back in an XF.

Steve, it's good to have differing opinions and I really do hope they can sustain the interest for at least 13 months and produce something that harks back to days gone by!
 

C5Steve

CCCUK Member
I hope they pull it off as well but I'm not confident in the direction they're heading. For the record, I've done 10 years straight with a Jag daily driver as before the F Type which I ran for 7 years I had a XFS (very quick) for 3 years at least and now back in an XF.

Steve, it's good to have differing opinions and I really do hope they can sustain the interest for at least 13 months and produce something that harks back to days gone by!
Totally agree and I appreciate your viewpoint and insight as an owner!

I've always thought I'd move to an XFS or F Type at some stage and I don't think I'd personally be a buyer if anything new but I'll take the brand surviving and prospering as a win.
 

Mr. Cricket

Committee Member
Sunk to a whole new level now with this comparison :ROFLMAO:

"The side profile is just as imposing. It looks incredibly low and sleek, with a fastback rear end which may put you in mind of the Rolls Royce Spectre – or even the Chrysler Crossfire".
 

C5Steve

CCCUK Member
Expected to "cost over £100k" per CarWow below and to be a rival to Bentley & Rolls Royce amongst others. That Concept car looks like a "big" (wide/long) car? Bentley/RR proportions?
Someone made an overlay with the 4 door caught testing and the concept, 4 door looks to be the same size as the concept so would seem about right for an XJ type car.
 
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