First C3 Vette and luvin it :)

Waynio

CCCUK Member
Looking at the starter more aswell that i have here. I can fix it fairly easy with help of metal putty to help level the flange out for a shorter bolt to be used. I cant see why they casings were made like they are. Can anybody explain why they made it that way, or just bad deign ?
 

Waynio

CCCUK Member
Hey honifnits works I have saved around £160.
It of a fettle with the Demel and it fits well.
I'll.add a little metal out under the washer to help level it more. Bit works well.

Worth a try isn't it.

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johng

CCCUK Member
My flywheel is 198 tooth, well i counted 85 halfway so near enough.

And well spotted on the header. Not that its difficult not to spot it though hey. I plan to fix that. Not clue what happened as its how it was when it came off. would take a fair old wack to make that dent though.



Yes it is a threaded hole that one aswell.

I want to sort this out and which to get this week if not tonight so i can put my order in. I have decided to try to rebuild the Quadrajet carb so ill order the rebuild ,kit for that. Pain in the arse i believe to tune up so ill research more on that for when time comes to fit.
Couple of things Wayne, have you got a photo of the header when fitted to the car? it could be that it's been dented to provide clearance, perhaps to the steering box? Wouldn't be good to remove the dent and then find you had to re-create it!
Also, I've rebuilt my Quadrajet and am currently fiddling about getting the mixture right (I've got a wideband O2 sensor fitted so I can actually measure what the AFR is). I've actually found the carb to be pretty easy to work on. If you haven't already done so, send an email to Lars Grimsrud at v8fastcars@msn.com and ask him for a copy of his timing and Q-jet tuning papers, they are both really good. Lars is the acknowledged guru on carbs on the US forum.
 

Waynio

CCCUK Member
Couple of things Wayne, have you got a photo of the header when fitted to the car? it could be that it's been dented to provide clearance, perhaps to the steering box? Wouldn't be good to remove the dent and then find you had to re-create it!
Also, I've rebuilt my Quadrajet and am currently fiddling about getting the mixture right (I've got a wideband O2 sensor fitted so I can actually measure what the AFR is). I've actually found the carb to be pretty easy to work on. If you haven't already done so, send an email to Lars Grimsrud at v8fastcars@msn.com and ask him for a copy of his timing and Q-jet tuning papers, they are both really good. Lars is the acknowledged guru on carbs on the US forum.

A quick one

I have messaged the previous owner to ask.
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
Who made those headers, a high school auto class ?
Do they not understand equal flow and effects of back pressure and not allowing total exhaust draw of looks like cylinder 1 ?

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Roscobbc

Moderator
It looks bad (it is bad!). One completely 'dead' cylinder would mean a a 12.5% power reduction.
One 'squished' header tube will potentially reduce the power to that individual 'pot' by say 15/20% at worse.........but factor-in 7 good cylinders and the engine is probably only down power-wise by a single percentage figure.......likely to be unnoticable by most people?
 

Waynio

CCCUK Member
Well got a reply from previous owner about the header dent, and it has always been like that since he imported it twelve years ago..
It is there to clear the steering box.
If it is so bad then ill maybe look for a new set while i am on Summit for parts. . If its been like this for so long then maybe barley a noticeable thing.
 

teamzr1

Supporting vendor
It looks bad (it is bad!). One completely 'dead' cylinder would mean a a 12.5% power reduction.
One 'squished' header tube will potentially reduce the power to that individual 'pot' by say 15/20% at worse.........but factor-in 7 good cylinders and the engine is probably only down power-wise by a single percentage figure.......likely to be unnoticable by most people?

Performance is one part but also is that primary for cylinder 1 is reducing the exhaust pulses which limits extracting all exhaust on exhaust stroke
so next firing for that cylinder will have a hotter and dirty charge to cylinder

Comparing old header to another brand at Summit racing, notice how cyl 1 primary is slanted more rearward to have more clearance for steering gear
For some reason for old header someone hacking on cyl 1 as the shape to the flange looks different then the others ?

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Chuffer

CCCUK Member
Also the question needs to asked , is the remainder of the exhaust system a free flow design mated to free flow tail mufflers ? If it`s not it defeats the whole object of having headers instead of manifolds .
 

Waynio

CCCUK Member
Couple of things Wayne, have you got a photo of the header when fitted to the car? it could be that it's been dented to provide clearance, perhaps to the steering box? Wouldn't be good to remove the dent and then find you had to re-create it!
Also, I've rebuilt my Quadrajet and am currently fiddling about getting the mixture right (I've got a wideband O2 sensor fitted so I can actually measure what the AFR is). I've actually found the carb to be pretty easy to work on. If you haven't already done so, send an email to Lars Grimsrud at v8fastcars@msn.com and ask him for a copy of his timing and Q-jet tuning papers, they are both really good. Lars is the acknowledged guru on carbs on the US forum.
I have the gauges still which i have removed but the Innovate LC-1 Digital Air/Fuel Lamba is still fitted. I read up on it and it blew ,my head. I hate tech and using a lap top to tune it scares me lol. Ill see how that goes and poss fit the gauges again, i just didnt like them stuck on the dash.

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johng

CCCUK Member
Afraid I'm not familiar with the Innovate LC-1, do you have to use a laptop with it? My sensor plugs into a gauge so I can read the AFR whilst driving along, it can also output to a laptop but I've not bothered with that. Your gauges look a bit more professional than my one, but then I'm not going to leave it there once I'm happy that my mixture is good and it's stable.
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Waynio

CCCUK Member
Afraid I'm not familiar with the Innovate LC-1, do you have to use a laptop with it? My sensor plugs into a gauge so I can read the AFR whilst driving along, it can also output to a laptop but I've not bothered with that. Your gauges look a bit more professional than my one, but then I'm not going to leave it there once I'm happy that my mixture is good and it's stable.
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Yes it works with a laptop. if i can get a good A pillar pod for them that mite work for me. I havnt looked yet as thats the last thing i need to do.
 
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